Prime minister of Australia John Govard claimed that "..nuclear tests of North Korea was confirmed by seismological data",©
Associated Press.
In connection with increase of probability of nuclear attack from the direction of North Korea Minister of Defence of
Australia along with Ministers of Defence of China, South Korea and Russia signed a memorandum on infliction…

http://au.cnnwarnews.com/topnews/

Umm...What is this? I'm affraid to click the link since he only has 1 post.

the link is a CNN australia link, so that's not a worry

So was his goal to try and instigate some harsh feelings towards Korea?

North Korea is totally nuts.

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I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about but some seismologists said it appeared that North Korea had set off a nuclear bomb. Their seismographs were registering something but there's really no way to immediately and conclusively know what set the seismographs off. Later investigations showed that it was in fact an earthquake in Japan. That was a few days ago. Since then has North Korea been accused of testing a bomb? It won't be long before people are talking about the good old war days when the guy with the most guns won...soon it will be the guy with the biggest/most bombs. I hope everyone has a hefty supply of sunscreen... ;-)

And yes they are out of their damn minds... I personally feel (as an American) that we should mind our own damn business... How many lives and how many more lives will be lost in the name of snooping around where we don't belong?

Big problem: If we (U.S.) stop sending food and medicine to Korea, they declare war. So we cant stop being in their business.
I say we should follow. End of Ze World

Well we should have NEVER gotten involved in other people's business. We have slowly gotten in over our heads. Now WWII was a bit of a different problem. That war would have inevitably spread to the United States. Wars like that I can understand. If you have totally, completely undeniable evidence that our country's safety is in jeopardy, then get involved. Until then...MYOB...

I just wanted to share a funny dream with you guys I had not too long ago. First of all, I've got a crazily creative mind which means I have some vivid and realistic dreams...scarily realistic. Anyway, the setting was in a desert somewhere and we were basically loading a bunch of nuclear weapons into a deep underground bunker in the middle of nowhere. It was a long (and very detailed in the dream) process. As I was walking around, president Bush walked right by me. I stopped him by tapping him on the shoulder and I said, "Hey...you got in over your head, didn't you." He looked up at me, kind of made a sad face, lowered his face, and said, "Yeah...I did" as he descended into the bunker.

If we keep pushing and pushing and pushing, eventually someone is going to push back and it's going to be UGLY!!

Wow, C13R1C, I totally agree with your opinions about the US being in everyones business. WE SHOULDN'T BE.

US is just overboard, am I right?

My opinion is: In either situation N. Korea will bomb the United States, therefore I would bomb them first... and not like 1 , or 2 bombs... I am talking about a full grown missile attack with like 100 bombs coming all over N.Korea.. They want to kill us, why should we spare them...? If the population wanted to change, they could all stand up , and have a revolution... but they agree with communist principles, and beleve that America must die..

People in America, believe that people should have a freedom of speech, and I agree.... I am American, I currently live in Canada though.

People ask, why does the US alway stick there nose?


Cause other people hassle them, due to the fact that the US is a strong econmical power, and because we practice full democratic ways....


I support our troops in Iraq, and I support the Canadian troops in Afghanastan.... they fight, so our food is cheap ( Iraq oil decreased gas prices, making food transport cheaper) and we have the right to be heard and to think what we want! I am equally Canadian and American,and like both equally! I stand by both countries.... I like North America in General!

Nuts head North Korea doesn't have the capabilities to attack US
(at least) yet and I doubt they have the f**king guts to do it. At most, they will attack Japan (likely) or South Korea (to infuriate US).

They supposedly don't have long range missiles yet, but I think that's a load of crap. Yes the US has definately gone overboard. Hitler was trying to spread his Totalitarian government around the world and now we are trying to spread our Democracy around the world... If we start launching nuclear weapons against North Korea then God help us. We will piss off the rest of the world, including other countries that DO have long range missiles. Anyway, in actuality, we would only need to bomb one part of North Korea to completely destroy/cripple it. There is only one part of Korea that is really established and that is where the government and military reside... ;-)

Sigh the same people who are now saying we shouldent intervene have created this problem and are craeating a new neucler crises in iran



If we had intervened in the first place we wouldnt be left with a neucler armed north korea to deal with now . And its not just america its the entire world

Everyone just needs to just mind their own business then!!

Personally I think that the governments are just scared...not of what we think they are though. Does anyone know what the possibilities are of utilizing enriched uranium simply for POWER needs? It would put the coal/oil industries out of business if it were mainstreamed. The big wigs can't have that, now can they? I mean how long will it take them to adapt water powered cars? The knowledge is there...there's just not a whole lot of long-term money to be made in it...

I personally believe that it is Iran and N. Korea's right as sovereign countries to have nuclear capabilities. We have them, who are we to dictate other people's rights?

Maybe if the current administration didn't toss out everything Clinton was trying with Korea we wouldn't be in this situation. Our foreign policy merely exacerbates any situation that would be easily solved diplomatically.

Exactly, I dont see why people think we can tell other countries what weapons they can have, when we have them also.

It's called hypocracy... ;-)

You can't have a "one world order" or "cheap world work force" when the workers can make a BIG noise.

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

Why is the term "terrorist" strewn about so carelessly? What was Abraham Lincoln and his men to the South? What was Columbus to America? What was Martin Luther to the Catholic church? The fact of the matter is that the term "terrorist" is EXTREMELY objective and that terrorist attacks are sometimes required to make things better. I'm tired of that word being used so much. And since when did it become such a bad thing in a Democracy for the people to question the legitamacy of their Governments actions or words? In a Democracy I AM THE GOVERMENT...YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT...

Look at where I from and you will understand 'democracy'.

Can you explain what you mean by that?

Outcast is from Singapore. That's what he means

I see that but I'm just asking what is his goverment like...

Hehe read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore#Pol..._and_government. If you have any questions feel free to ask me.

Also our so-call people-elected president is bullshit. He isn't elected by the people; he was just simply chosen by the ruling party for the easy-going job.

Do you think the United States really has Presidential ellections? Nah...I think it's just an illusion of an ellection, which is good enough for the majority of the population to sleep easy at night... ;-)

This is why I'm not a Political Science major. The last time I tried to have a civilized political debate with someone they bit my head off. Oh well, I'll just still to technology.

Well at least you guys got to vote who will govern the country.

On that note, my voter reg. card came in the mail today! yay!

See, so you guys are lucky. In Singapore, the government even decides who get or not to vote.

No country has the right to obtain ThermoNeucler Weapons under the Neucler Non-Proliferation treaty , Why ? Imagine this the year is 2009 the iranien government has colappsed what will happen to their Thermo-Neucler Weapons

Plausible senarios include
1 Outsourcing them to terrorist orginisations such as Hesbalah .
2 As one last twisted act of revenge these devistation weapons of mass destruction are either delivered by air or detonated at ground level

These and many other scenarios are what the Neucler Non-Proliferation treaty adresses . If a country wishes to obtain a neucler deturent like ireland we could but you have to adress all the conerns of your neighbors . If we were to want a neculer deturent we would get one within 10 years or less because we are a peaceful country

I stress the word deturent , Its not a tool to harass your internation neighbors and make no mistake isreal will destroy irans neucler program just like iraqs because they have both the moral and legal obligation to do so , and that super hot blonde milatery spokeseperson ? (whoever she is)

I'm a firm believer that Bush managed to get into office when he shouldn't have been able to. I don't know how, but I truly don't believe that many people wanted the doofus as our President.

What happend to the USSR? Or what happens if the US falls apart, the UK, France, India, Pakistan, Israel? The list keeps going.

You point out that Israel as a 'moral' obligation to destroy another country's facilities, this isn't true. It'd be immoral if they did destroy them, not only on the basis that Iran says they're only developing for power, but that Israel shouldn't be allowed to have nukes themselves.

A country that has nukes should not tell other countries whether not they can have any themselves.

No one should have these weapons of death, but they do. I'd be the first to do away with them and invest the money into the public instead. Free college, healthcare, and social security sounds good to me.

I fully agree that he is a moron...but Kerry is a bigger one... ;-)



What??? The US government crumble???? NAAAAAHHHHHHH! That's the problem right there. "The US is a "world power" and it's never going away." People need to get rid of that mentality. Every government falls eventually...

You saying that the US could never fall? I'm having a hard time following you...



Why you say that? I mean he wasn't the cream of the crop but he would have been a set up.

I'm just wondering....

howcome it seems all world (and country) leaders seem stupid to the people who actually chose them to be their representative leader in the first place?

I sometimes (I'm sorry, I'm Dutch) get the feeling Bush is a pretty good representative for the US...

Government bovine or nationalist tend to be the active voters...

I absolutely believe that the US government will crumble one day. I'm saying the general population has the mentality that it won't.

Bush and Kerry are both dumb. I chose the lesser of the two...

Hahahaha... I'm a little insulted by that. I can't stand Bush, nor do I think he's a "good" representative for the US. He's HORRIBLE in my honest opinion. I sure as hell didn't vote for him, I didn't vote for anyone. I couldn't at the time because I wasn't registered to vote yet. Honestly though, I truly believe it wouldn't have mattered how many votes he recieved. I think someone pulled some strings for the little puppet (Bush).

A lot of "conspiracy theorists" who are remarkably intelligent people believe that John F. Kennedy was the last truly elected president...hence why he was assassinated (supposedly by our very government).

Wouldn't doubt it. Gotta love Nixon for doing that.