I was reading this month's issue of Maximum PC and it had a benchmark test of the latest OSX vs XP. The test was actually conducted on one of the newer intel Macs that was capable of booting XP with the bootcamp software. Surprisingly enough, XP ran better on Apple's hardware than OS X did. That's not what caught my attention though. There was another article on the same page called "OS X on the PC?" and this is the exerpt:
"This might surprise you, but we think the odds of Apple introducing its OS to the PC wild before Vista ships are around 75%. Yup, that's right. You might be able to buy a Dell, Compaq, or Alienware PC running OS X by early 2007. Dedicated hackers have even managed to get several versions of OS X running on non-Apple, intel based PCs. It's not for the faint of heart, however, and is illegal if you don't own a copy of the OS. What's more, OS X on non-Apple hardware isn't a realistic platform for day-to-day computing. We're waiting on an official version before we make the switch."
Did I read that correctly? Apple may actually release it's OS X for regular X-86 architecture? If so, that's pretty exciting news, at least for those of us who would like to give it a go.
Full Version: Apple releasing OS X for x-86 based PCs?
That would give Vista a nice kick in the groin even before it comes out and would def. increase the completition. Who knows, it might make Microsoft work harder in improving Vista. :-)
I'm really anxious to try it out. It would be a nice alternative for my wife since she really likes apple's stuff.
Hope it's for real. Then there will be another OS to play around with.
I bought a $40 imac this week just to play around with Mac OS (but it was 9.2 
) anyway if apple released OSX to the X86 or the X64 (I know I'm dreaming) I'd buy it.
) anyway if apple released OSX to the X86 or the X64 (I know I'm dreaming) I'd buy it.
I was running a hacked copy of OSX on my PC for a few days. If Apple made it for PC I would definatly buy it.
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I was running a hacked copy of OSX on my PC for a few days. If Apple made it for PC I would definatly buy it.
How was it? Did you like it? I read an article about how to install it and it didn't seem too hard. It said you had to dedicate a separate hard drive to it, since you couldn't use another partition. Then it said to load a linux live cd, enter some stuff at the command line, and boot the OS X iso image from another source, like external HD. Is that anything like what you had to do?
What about coming out with a simplified step-by-step guide for installing Mac OS on PCs, palack?
P. S. I think the ability to get hold on hacked Mac OS X is getting more and more difficult. Apple has decided to close the doors of the kernal source (news that was a couple of months ago, if I didn't remember wrongly).
P. S. I think the ability to get hold on hacked Mac OS X is getting more and more difficult. Apple has decided to close the doors of the kernal source (news that was a couple of months ago, if I didn't remember wrongly).
I did it a while ago
it involves raw-writing directly to your hard drive block by block from a vmware ISO
it involves raw-writing directly to your hard drive block by block from a vmware ISO
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I did it a while ago
it involves raw-writing directly to your hard drive block by block from a vmware ISO
sounds compicated congratulations this just made frontpage news!
Linux live way: http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2005/08/3972/
Windows way: http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2005/08/3945/
Windows way: http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2005/08/3945/
For more info read http://www.osx86project.org/ and Maxxus's blog (i dont have a link for it right now)
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I did it a while ago
it involves raw-writing directly to your hard drive block by block from a vmware ISO
That method is old, right now if you can take hold of patched version of OSX and you have a SSE2 or SSE3 capable CPU and 915G or 945G motherboard you are set to go.
I using AMD processor (Opteron 144 to be specific). I read around and learnt that installing Mac OS X on AMD is more complicated and tedious.
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If you wish to install OSX tiger to your intel machine or usb drive, you can follow these few steps. Be careful because you can kill your hard drive if you are not careful.
You will need either a seperate hard drive (seperate partition will not do) or an external hard drive. Whatever extra hard drive you use will be completely replaced by osx and you will lose all information on that drive.
1. Authorized users should obtain the OSX files from Apple. It is illegal to obtain them from torrent sites by searching under the following keywords: "VMWare files for patched Mac OS X Tiger Intel"
2. Unrar these files to the root of your C: drive
3. Download Forensic Acquisition Utilities
4. Unzip these files and copy dd.exe to the root of c: drive as well
Note: the dd.exe program is used to write the image to your spare hard drive or external hard drive. The command is the following:
dd if=c:\tiger-x86-flat.img of=\\.\PhysicalDriveSomething
PhysicalDriveSomething should be replaced with your real physicaldrive (PhysicalDrive1, PhysicalDrive2, etc.). What your hard drives or usb drives are labelled is not always obvious. So I use WMI to figure this out. If you don't need it, don't get it. It's free... and it may prevent you from killing your wrong hard drive.
5. Download WMI Tools from Microsoft
6. Open WMI Browser Object
7. Allow block content and click the OKs until it loads
8. Select Win32_SystemPartitions.PartComponent in the left column
9. In the right column right-click on the drive device id (Disk #0, Partition #0, etc) and select Go to Object
10. The device window will open and click the associations tab
11. Exploring with this tool you should be able to match drive letters (Win32_LogicalDisk.DeviceID="C:") to each physicaldisk reference (Win32_DiskDrive.DeviceID="\\\\.\\PHYSICALDRIVE0")
Click for larger version:
12. Now that you know the physicaldrive label for your extra internal or external drive, you can drop to the root of your c: drive and run the command. Be sure to replace the physicaldrive text with the physical drive you determined above. If you use the wrong one, you will erase your primary hard drive.
dd if=c:\tiger-x86-flat.img of=\\.\PhysicalDrive
13. The command will appear to hang but you will notice your extra harddrive cranking away. It's going to do this for 15min to hours. Just let it run.
14. Once it is done, reboot and set the osx drive to your boot drive through your bios.
15. If your hardware is compatable, you should boot to OSX.
It really isnt that hard at all, I did it (once I had the ISO) in less than 10 mins tops
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I using AMD processor (Opteron 144 to be specific). I read around and learnt that installing Mac OS X on AMD is more complicated and tedious.
Both of my computers have AMD XP chips. Will that even matter if Apple does release an x-86 based PC version of OS X? I'd hate to miss out on such an opportunity just because I don't have intel hardware.
Because not all AMD processors have SSE3 needed for rossetta (or something like that), if you dont have it then it has to be software emulated which makes it sloooow
So it will work, just slower than it should
I personally have an AMD64 WITHOUT SSE3 and yes it was quite slow, but hopefully ill have a system soonw ith SSE2 so I will try it out again!
So it will work, just slower than it should
I personally have an AMD64 WITHOUT SSE3 and yes it was quite slow, but hopefully ill have a system soonw ith SSE2 so I will try it out again!
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Because not all AMD processors have SSE3 needed for rossetta (or something like that), if you dont have it then it has to be software emulated which makes it sloooow
So it will work, just slower than it should
I personally have an AMD64 WITHOUT SSE3 and yes it was quite slow, but hopefully ill have a system soonw ith SSE2 so I will try it out again!
What exactly is SSE3? I've fallen behind on my processor architecture I guess.
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SSE3, also known by its Intel code name Prescott New Instructions (PNI), is the third iteration of the SSE instruction set for the IA-32 architecture. Intel introduced SSE3 in early 2004 with the Prescott revision of their Pentium 4 CPU. In April 2005, AMD introduced a subset of SSE3 in revision E (Venice and San Diego) of their Athlon 64 CPUs. The earlier SIMD instruction sets on the x86 platform, from oldest to newest, are MMX, 3DNow! (developed by AMD), SSE and SSE2.
There you go.
Sorry to bump a topic that hasn't been posted to in a while, but if any of you guys get some inside info on this (Mac OS on X86), please post it! I'm very interested in this and I'm sure many others are as well. Thanks!
I'd be the first on the list to get a Mac OS for my pc!!! 
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