OK, Let me VENT for a BIT, LoL !!
Ok im not religious and not even 1/2 of the US is cathloc or whatever.
Since the man died my cable news has been SATURATED with POPE, Im SO disquisted with my Country !!!!!!
My MEDIA can kiss my ..... !!!
Even my father which is mormon cant believe the DISGUIST of this media on all cable news channels, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all have been POPE death since he died not one coverage of anyhting else I swear, THERE was even a bombimg in IRAQ that didnt let loose on the Cathlloc A-Hole MEDIA.
Ok, (deep breathe...) lol
Ok I feel a bit better. !!
(Remember there is NO religion!!)
Full Version: Ok Already, Enuff of Pope !
Did you feel the same way about Terri Shiavo's coverage that went on for days? If not, then I hate to break it to you, but the Pope has done more good to this world and been a hollier person than Terri was. 
I agree. Im sick of hearing about the Pope. I cant stand that he is help i such regards. You know that it wasnt till 1992 till the pope said the world wasnt flat. AAAAAAAAA (thats me screaming). And the whole Terri Shiavo thing, i dont know why people care about other peoples life. It drives me crazy to see on the cover of a magazine, "Blah and Blah just broke up today". WHO CARES ABOUT CELEBERTIES. Thank you garikfox for allowing me to vent. I feel much better now.
Haha this is going to turn into a religious debate lol, I like those 
Im a christian, but not catholic
Im a christian, but not catholic
There is a huge difference between celebrities and people like the pope... stop your complaining and deal with. CNN had a poll the other day and it was almost 80% of the viewers would rather listen to news about the Pope more than anything else.
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There is a huge difference between celebrities and people like the pope... stop your complaining and deal with. CNN had a poll the other day and it was almost 80% of the viewers would rather listen to news about the Pope more than anything else.
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I'm one of them.
Who watches the tv for news these days anyways lol
hey man the pope died wow. i'm waiting for the concil to pick a new member.
See i see it from an atheist point of view. The pope is all is glory is just a bunch of crazy people. This isnt the 12 centery anymore we should move out of thinking that there is a god that controls our life.
Agreed that the pope is just another person like you and I, yes a good leader and has done alot of good for mankind but no better or closer to god then you or I could be, he shouldn't be worshiped anymore then the average joe should be worshiped.
So do you think that there was a god in the 12th centery? or even if there was no good back then why was it ok to follow a god back then, but not today?
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This isnt the 12 centery anymore we should move out of thinking that there is a god that controls our life.
So do you think that there was a god in the 12th centery? or even if there was no good back then why was it ok to follow a god back then, but not today?
ya true he was a god man
no there wasnt a god back then there never was one. The reason that i say this is because we as a people are more educated then we were back in those days. We have science to back things up. Back then it there were magicians that healed people with spells. Back in the day im sure that people said there was a god just so there follows would do what they told them to do. and since the follows where a bunch of uneducated people (not that the leaders were much better) but they were smart enought to think of that, and it just kind of stuck. I am a super logical person i need proof that stuff exsict other then a book that is 2500 years old. or however old it is. I think that the people that need god in there life need it because they cant support themselves on there own. Not that im calling the belives douche bags that cant get a job. But i mean mentally. They need that extra thing in there life to keep them balanced. But to truely think that there is a god that make everything in 6 days randomly, is a BS in my book. What took him so long to want to make the world and space and all that. And if he is real who created him/her? Things jsut dont apart from nowhere. And to your question if you ask it. I dont know where space and all that cam from but i would rather belive in the big bang theory and/or the string theory then something just made it one day because it was board.
I dont normally get into these types of arguements because ..well they get hostile but i figured since i saw 2 completely closed minded idiots ranting about it..i might as well state my opinion too...because i think with an open mind and accept that everyone has different beliefs
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I'll remember that when you die in a horrible accident or unexpectly ...you must be a very lonely person to think that caring for someone is in some way ..wrong. I dont know about you but i care about my friends, my family and my loved ones. We are social beings tobbs , face it , we socialize and we depend on the ones we love just as much as they depend on us ... if not then it would get pretty lonely.
I dont see him being worshiped ...what do u expect at a funeral ...cake and punch!?
You give a bad name to atheist , first off you criticize others for believing what they believe in ...and then give the most moronic statement to back up the reason your an atheist.
If you actually read the bible you would find out that quite a bit of it are stories that you interpret ... The world probably wasnt made in 6 days but it shows how God created everything you see... how else do u think all this beautiful stuff got here ... was it aliens tobbs? God wasnt "created" he was there always ...its not like he was sittin there on a cloud all by himself alone ... you oviously dont know what your talking about because your arguement is stupid and your questions are too because you didnt take the time to understand that which u are criticizing.
If you we're a real open minded person you would learn to accept people and their beliefs for what they are and worry about living your life and doing less complaining about everyone elses and their belief's that contradict yours.
As for your statement on people need God in their life cause their weak and mentally insecure. Thats a direct insult to anyone who believes in God, I believe in God, i've believed for the last 20 years and i and even my friends are mentally fine..that whole post is ...
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I agree. Im sick of hearing about the Pope. I cant stand that he is help i such regards. You know that it wasnt till 1992 till the pope said the world wasnt flat. AAAAAAAAA (thats me screaming). And the whole Terri Shiavo thing, i dont know why people care about other peoples life. It drives me crazy to see on the cover of a magazine, "Blah and Blah just broke up today". WHO CARES ABOUT CELEBERTIES. Thank you garikfox for allowing me to vent. I feel much better now.
I'll remember that when you die in a horrible accident or unexpectly ...you must be a very lonely person to think that caring for someone is in some way ..wrong. I dont know about you but i care about my friends, my family and my loved ones. We are social beings tobbs , face it , we socialize and we depend on the ones we love just as much as they depend on us ... if not then it would get pretty lonely.
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he shouldn't be worshiped anymore then the average joe should be worshiped.
I dont see him being worshiped ...what do u expect at a funeral ...cake and punch!?
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See i see it from an atheist point of view. The pope is all is glory is just a bunch of crazy people. This isnt the 12 centery anymore we should move out of thinking that there is a god that controls our life.
You give a bad name to atheist , first off you criticize others for believing what they believe in ...and then give the most moronic statement to back up the reason your an atheist.
If you actually read the bible you would find out that quite a bit of it are stories that you interpret ... The world probably wasnt made in 6 days but it shows how God created everything you see... how else do u think all this beautiful stuff got here ... was it aliens tobbs? God wasnt "created" he was there always ...its not like he was sittin there on a cloud all by himself alone ... you oviously dont know what your talking about because your arguement is stupid and your questions are too because you didnt take the time to understand that which u are criticizing.
If you we're a real open minded person you would learn to accept people and their beliefs for what they are and worry about living your life and doing less complaining about everyone elses and their belief's that contradict yours.
As for your statement on people need God in their life cause their weak and mentally insecure. Thats a direct insult to anyone who believes in God, I believe in God, i've believed for the last 20 years and i and even my friends are mentally fine..that whole post is ...
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And to your question if you ask it. I dont know where space and all that cam from but i would rather belive in the big bang theory and/or the string theory then something just made it one day because it was board.
Very good, glad you answered that for me
So neither science nor religon have a true concreate proof to stand on, so i guess even science at the very root requires faith. But the bible is based on faith also and thats how so many people like myself look around and say how could all of this be created by chance. A god creating the earth is hard to believe for alot of people, I agree, but then so is a big bang being able to create our world as perfect and diverse as it is.Both very much require a step of faith. Its for you to choose
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you oviously dont know what your talking about because your arguement is stupid and your questions are too because you didnt take the time to understand that which u are criticizing.
A good debater needs to know and be able to debate both sides of the story
Look. i agree that the bible is a guide for life, on what to do and what no to do. I WONT ague agaisnt that. But to take it serious is nonsense. If you belive in one part of it then you have to belive in all of it. You can pick and choose what to belive. If everyone did take the bible serious word for word and it was true then people would be stoneing there children whenever they do anything wrong. That would be like opening a science book and chooseing to belive in one part of the book but not the other part. You jsut dont do that. But in the case of the bible and relign your allowed to.
People do stone their children... Its called spanking or scolding.
There are 2 parts to the bible the old and the new, old = before jesus came and the new = after jesus died for us, applys to 2 different times we are living post-new testement now jesus died to forgive the sins of man, thats why we dont stone children for doing wrong, lol among other things
and I believe the whole bible as truth.
jesus died to forgive the sins of man, thats why we dont stone children for doing wrong, lol among other things and I believe the whole bible as truth.
well if you think the whole bible is true then you should belive it word for word and that would include stoning. And spaking isnt stoning. Spanking doesnt kill people.
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I dont normally get into these types of arguements because ..well they get hostile but i figured since i saw 2 completely closed minded idiots ranting about it..i might as well state my opinion too...because i think with an open mind and accept that everyone has different beliefs
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I'll remember that when you die in a horrible accident or unexpectly ...you must be a very lonely person to think that caring for someone is in some way ..wrong. I dont know about you but i care about my friends, my family and my loved ones. We are social beings tobbs , face it , we socialize and we depend on the ones we love just as much as they depend on us ... if not then it would get pretty lonely.
I dont see him being worshiped ...what do u expect at a funeral ...cake and punch!?
You give a bad name to atheist , first off you criticize others for believing what they believe in ...and then give the most moronic statement to back up the reason your an atheist.
If you actually read the bible you would find out that quite a bit of it are stories that you interpret ... The world probably wasnt made in 6 days but it shows how God created everything you see... how else do u think all this beautiful stuff got here ... was it aliens tobbs? God wasnt "created" he was there always ...its not like he was sittin there on a cloud all by himself alone ... you oviously dont know what your talking about because your arguement is stupid and your questions are too because you didnt take the time to understand that which u are criticizing.
If you we're a real open minded person you would learn to accept people and their beliefs for what they are and worry about living your life and doing less complaining about everyone elses and their belief's that contradict yours.
As for your statement on people need God in their life cause their weak and mentally insecure. Thats a direct insult to anyone who believes in God, I believe in God, i've believed for the last 20 years and i and even my friends are mentally fine..that whole post is ... .
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I agree. Im sick of hearing about the Pope. I cant stand that he is help i such regards. You know that it wasnt till 1992 till the pope said the world wasnt flat. AAAAAAAAA (thats me screaming). And the whole Terri Shiavo thing, i dont know why people care about other peoples life. It drives me crazy to see on the cover of a magazine, "Blah and Blah just broke up today". WHO CARES ABOUT CELEBERTIES. Thank you garikfox for allowing me to vent. I feel much better now.
I'll remember that when you die in a horrible accident or unexpectly ...you must be a very lonely person to think that caring for someone is in some way ..wrong. I dont know about you but i care about my friends, my family and my loved ones. We are social beings tobbs , face it , we socialize and we depend on the ones we love just as much as they depend on us ... if not then it would get pretty lonely.
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he shouldn't be worshiped anymore then the average joe should be worshiped.
I dont see him being worshiped ...what do u expect at a funeral ...cake and punch!?
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See i see it from an atheist point of view. The pope is all is glory is just a bunch of crazy people. This isnt the 12 centery anymore we should move out of thinking that there is a god that controls our life.
You give a bad name to atheist , first off you criticize others for believing what they believe in ...and then give the most moronic statement to back up the reason your an atheist.
If you actually read the bible you would find out that quite a bit of it are stories that you interpret ... The world probably wasnt made in 6 days but it shows how God created everything you see... how else do u think all this beautiful stuff got here ... was it aliens tobbs? God wasnt "created" he was there always ...its not like he was sittin there on a cloud all by himself alone ... you oviously dont know what your talking about because your arguement is stupid and your questions are too because you didnt take the time to understand that which u are criticizing.
If you we're a real open minded person you would learn to accept people and their beliefs for what they are and worry about living your life and doing less complaining about everyone elses and their belief's that contradict yours.
As for your statement on people need God in their life cause their weak and mentally insecure. Thats a direct insult to anyone who believes in God, I believe in God, i've believed for the last 20 years and i and even my friends are mentally fine..that whole post is ...
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"but i figured since i saw 2 completely closed minded idiots ranting about it"
This is completely uncalled for, and had a member on here said this to you, I think the consequences would have been really, really bad.
As for the pope thing; I agree that it's been overdone, but such is the way of the media. They're giving people what they want, and what people want right now is news about the pope. He was a huge figure, like it or not...so, I mean - change the channel, that's the best I can do.
I said that, there are 2 parts to the bible the new is after jesus has come to forgive sins, thats why now we dont have to kill people becuase they sin, before christ came (old testement) is where the most stoning took place, jesus said whoever is without sin throw the first rock, no one is without sin and therefor thats why everyone needs christ and no one is stoned anymore, he died to forgive our sins
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well if you think the whole bible is true then you should belive it word for word and that would include stoning. And spaking isnt stoning. Spanking doesnt kill people.
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your taking it to literal tobbs ... Lee Man i would have to disagree with saying everything is absolutely true ... examples: The flood, Genesis - these are prime examples but they are simply easy stories to explain maybe a hint of the bigger picture of things.
The basic point u get from the flood story is that no matter what he promised never to bring a flood again ...which is symbolic of the rainbow.
Theres alot of symbolism that yall are overlooking and just taking it to literal ... I spend a whole semester studying every major religion since 10,000 BC ... each one unique in their own little way.
If you'd sit down and read the old testament and psalms and other books ..u have to find the underlying meaning in some of them..they just dont jump out at you...
@Neo - Its the flamezone ..did u expect me to be nice lol
You can pick and choose what to belive in. Either you belive in it all or you dont. Either you belive that god told Noah to build a arch and get EVERY type of animal, plant, insect, bactera, ... or he didnt. i dont see how you can and choose to think that this part happend but this didnt.
I believe it all, like I said, I dont see why you shouldn't or couldn't take those stories as truth if we believe that god created everything.
so you belive that someone made a boat large enought to hold two of EVERYTHING created. Which includes bacteria, viruses, deadly deasises. How can you say this? im not trying to insult you just trying to understand why you think this.
Who is to say what exactly happened? Was you there? How can you prove Noah didnt get every animal, insect, etc? God controls nature as well, so he could have had them gather where the Arc was. I am a firm believer. I wasnt going to comment anywhere on this thread because I really dont believe in Catholicism, to each their own. You know let us believers believe what we want and you can believe what you want and just drop it all. God says to preach but he doesnt say to argue over it.
If I have faith enough to believe that god created all things then for me to believe that god could fit all living things into a boat and float it around for a few days, its not that hard. Like you said you either need to take it all for truth or none. But I know lots of people that like BlueScreenOfDeath take the early part of the bible as stories, I dont however.
Aawww I enjoy debating lol, Im not arguing just letting everyone know what I believe:) and answering some questions:)
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Aawww I enjoy debating lol, Im not arguing just letting everyone know what I believe:) and answering some questions:)
the reason that i know that noah didnt make the arch is because it impossible. Its impossible for someone that long ago to make a ship that large, and it would take hundreds of years to go and get two of everything. And the bacteria and viruses would kill all the animals on the ship. There is no way that it can happen. Its just impossible.
I dont mind a good debate. But it would be a never ending debate. Its like Intel vs AMD. or nV vs. ATI, there will always be naysayers. Sometimes its better to bite thy tongue.
Its better to look a fool, then to open thy mouth and remove all doubt.
Nothing is impossible, only to those who want it to be impossible. Its like a dream if you want that dream to happen you will make it happen, if you dont then its not a dream.
Its better to look a fool, then to open thy mouth and remove all doubt.
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Its just impossible.
Nothing is impossible, only to those who want it to be impossible. Its like a dream if you want that dream to happen you will make it happen, if you dont then its not a dream.
And how did a big bang create all of this? Its all about faith tobb555, God doesn't work as humans do, He is God, With god all things are possible.
With that I must get to bed, I will pick this up in the morning if anyone is still posting on this! lol
Goodnight
With that I must get to bed, I will pick this up in the morning if anyone is still posting on this! lol
Goodnight
Ok this is my last post in this thread. There are things that are impossible. Go outside and fly, without any help from an outside source. Thats impossible. Going around ang gathering every living thing in a boat. impossible. Even by todays standards.
And if you would have asked people in the 1st century that we could be flying 2000 years later ...they would have said it was impossible ... but alas..airplanes came along ..and whos to say we wont ever fly....we might evolve and develop wings... Nothing is impossible tobbs
If you was meant to fly, you could. Can you preen yourself like a cat or dog? Can you smell like a dog can? If God wanted you to do these things he would have made us that way.
i dunno Out , some people can lick their preen's lol LMAO
Well good for them. I would rather not know that.
this is tobbs friend and after reading what you say i think i might be able to bring up a good point
I have been to church several times and its just not for me. If "god" does have a plan, its for me to balance the universe by not believing.
anyway here is my point, thousands of years ago they had gods for everything, the sun, the moon, war, love, becuase they didnt understand it. now today why must we still have a god? becuase its "scary" to think about what it would be like if after your dead there is nothing? just cold black non-existance? becuase saying "your going to hell if you dont eat that spaghetti jimmy" is easier than actually having to parent your child without the use of some almighty eternal punishment if they are bad?
i believe that our race as a whole isnt advanced enough to understand the creation of the universe, and to me a giant explosion is much more believable than some guy going "voila!" and out of nowhere stuff just appears.
as for the bible, its a good compilation of stories to help people live a good life. its like that book "everybody poops," just a guide.
so back on topic of the pope, its a shame hes dead, dont know much about catholicism, but im willing to bet he was a pretty good guy if everyone liked him so much.
I have been to church several times and its just not for me. If "god" does have a plan, its for me to balance the universe by not believing.
anyway here is my point, thousands of years ago they had gods for everything, the sun, the moon, war, love, becuase they didnt understand it. now today why must we still have a god? becuase its "scary" to think about what it would be like if after your dead there is nothing? just cold black non-existance? becuase saying "your going to hell if you dont eat that spaghetti jimmy" is easier than actually having to parent your child without the use of some almighty eternal punishment if they are bad?
i believe that our race as a whole isnt advanced enough to understand the creation of the universe, and to me a giant explosion is much more believable than some guy going "voila!" and out of nowhere stuff just appears.
as for the bible, its a good compilation of stories to help people live a good life. its like that book "everybody poops," just a guide.
so back on topic of the pope, its a shame hes dead, dont know much about catholicism, but im willing to bet he was a pretty good guy if everyone liked him so much.
You cant tell me that the big bang created life? I dont see it. Thats like sayin me playin with my chemisty set will make life from an explosion. So what your sayin is a chemistry experiment gone bad? Well who/what started that lil experiment? To have an explosion you have to have heat and fuel. What made that? Come on. You can create something from nothing like that? I was playin with some plutonium and some lead and i created a second earth with living creatures and water.
excellent point , i mean even if it didnt go as genesis fortells .... imagine it like this:
God starts the big bang and lets it go from there... only stepping in Exodus and the time Christ was alive...
very very feasable ...u cant assume that just because God exist that he should be here holding your hand through life ..it aint that easy .. Your hear to learn and grow as a spirtual being and once you find that and give do good things while your here and believe..then you'll be rewarded in the post life.
Out is right .. we can shoot down your ideas of the big bang creating everything just as you can say God isnt real...but the thing that links us together is ..faith
God starts the big bang and lets it go from there... only stepping in Exodus and the time Christ was alive...
very very feasable ...u cant assume that just because God exist that he should be here holding your hand through life ..it aint that easy .. Your hear to learn and grow as a spirtual being and once you find that and give do good things while your here and believe..then you'll be rewarded in the post life.
Out is right .. we can shoot down your ideas of the big bang creating everything just as you can say God isnt real...but the thing that links us together is ..faith
Wow! Just woke up and read all the posts in this thread. Way to go OutlandishTrendz and BlueScreenOfDeath, I've got your backs. 
i watched it all,those things happen,no needs for that kind of media attention,well maybe 1-2 days worth but more than that is too much.
I just woke up and looked at this thread also..... Blue and Out... you've said everything that I would have said and I agree with you both.
People take stories about of the bible to literally and then try to figure out how the world could have been created in 6 days... Look in the bible, people lived almost 400+ years. Do you think that years had the same meaning then as it does now?
People take stories about of the bible to literally and then try to figure out how the world could have been created in 6 days... Look in the bible, people lived almost 400+ years. Do you think that years had the same meaning then as it does now?
I take the whole bible as turth however, I dont try to figure out or explain how some things happened, its god, like has been said before nothing is impossible with god. I would rather pick the bible up and say i believe everything thats in here, and not just some parts. Some things can't be explained, like the creation of the earth, but we still believe.
The world was created in six "God" days. Now as you all "scientists" know the time-space continum causes the time to go a lot slower or much faster in different universes and solar systems. So seeing as to God isn't a "person" who lives in a specific solar system an universe, then one day for God may equal hundreds, or even thousands of years for us who live on Earth.
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it was a loss for many people, i myself feel bad (not because he was the pope) but because of the things he had done, he was a great man. the media coverage is overwhelming though. they show nothing else and you cant find out any other news. but the problem is that the same thing happend with terri schivao (sp?)
all the media is doing is trying to get more ratings... (can someone say human interest stories lure ratings?)
I personally come to flexbeta for 90% of my news
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I dont believe in a higher power myself for personal reasons but those that do have all the right to say and disagree with people such as myself whom dont believe. i'm staying out of it as much as possible but guys, damnit, be nice. this is the flamezone but you still dont have to ruin someone's day. if i read that post (earlier on) and it was ment for me, i'd be very upset.
it was a loss for many people, i myself feel bad (not because he was the pope) but because of the things he had done, he was a great man. the media coverage is overwhelming though. they show nothing else and you cant find out any other news. but the problem is that the same thing happend with terri schivao (sp?)
all the media is doing is trying to get more ratings... (can someone say human interest stories lure ratings?)
I personally come to flexbeta for 90% of my news
(+Google News)(back to off topic)
I dont believe in a higher power myself for personal reasons but those that do have all the right to say and disagree with people such as myself whom dont believe. i'm staying out of it as much as possible but guys, damnit, be nice. this is the flamezone but you still dont have to ruin someone's day. if i read that post (earlier on) and it was ment for me, i'd be very upset.
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...but guys, damnit, be nice. this is the flamezone but you still dont have to ruin someone's day. if i read that post (earlier on) and it was ment for me, i'd be very upset.
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We believers were offended in the first place by tobb555's post who didn't respect our beliefs and opinions.
I wasn't really offended by what he said, granted he could have written it a little different to make it sound better but he has just as much of an opinion as any of us and feels the need to express it to us and vise versa.
However that said, I do only believe that there is one right way and that is through God and Jesus christ. lol
However that said, I do only believe that there is one right way and that is through God and Jesus christ. lol
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Look guys, i think we should leave people to what they believe, who are to say that someones beliefs am wrong?
Im not a religous person in the slightest but i still respect other peoples religion and beliefs even though i dont believe it myself!
There not doing any harm to you so leave them alone!
MartMoz
Im not a religous person in the slightest but i still respect other peoples religion and beliefs even though i dont believe it myself!
There not doing any harm to you so leave them alone!
MartMoz
tobbs friend again:
the "buying a chemistry kit and making life" is exactly what scientists are doing now, taking elemental compounds present on earth during the early days and seeing what happens. in my zoology class i saw how several compounds can come together in a specific fashion and create a phospholipid, and then phospolipid blilayers and so on. nuclecic acids, the building blocks for DNA:
as shown, the structure above is a nuclecid acid, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, calcium, and depending on the R variable you either get a T A G or C. seeing as the building blocks of life are such simple compounds, i dont see how over billions and billions and billions of years very very basic organisms can grow and evolve. Of course the big bang theory vs some god provoked creation is still at play. but where did god come from then? if you say he was always around, then my reply is: so was the material before the big bang.
the "buying a chemistry kit and making life" is exactly what scientists are doing now, taking elemental compounds present on earth during the early days and seeing what happens. in my zoology class i saw how several compounds can come together in a specific fashion and create a phospholipid, and then phospolipid blilayers and so on. nuclecic acids, the building blocks for DNA:
as shown, the structure above is a nuclecid acid, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, calcium, and depending on the R variable you either get a T A G or C. seeing as the building blocks of life are such simple compounds, i dont see how over billions and billions and billions of years very very basic organisms can grow and evolve. Of course the big bang theory vs some god provoked creation is still at play. but where did god come from then? if you say he was always around, then my reply is: so was the material before the big bang.
OK, is that the game you guys are playing here... the game of "prove it and I'll belive you"? Good... let me get into the game myself...
We say God exists, and you'd like us to prove it with some concrete facts correct?
Now... you say God doesn't exist, then could you please prove it with some concrete facts, so that me and the others would believe you and you would get a noble prizee for your scientific discovery? Can you do that?
We say God exists, and you'd like us to prove it with some concrete facts correct?
Now... you say God doesn't exist, then could you please prove it with some concrete facts, so that me and the others would believe you and you would get a noble prizee for your scientific discovery? Can you do that?
Let me say again, it is faith lol, we all know both cannot be proven, but there are so many things that god has given to us that show that some random events could not have created all of this, and tobb555 tell your "friend" to get his own user name we miss talking to you
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