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thexfile
United States President stealthily took over the Federal Government last week through a new executive order last week that takes away all autonomy from Agencies, according to public interest organizations.

The order amends a series of previous executive orders that culminated in Executive Order No. 12,866, which the White House has used to give itself the power to review regulations before they can be officially published in the Federal Register.

The new order applies the review power not just to regulations but also to what it calls “significant guidance documents.”

“This order is just the latest in a series of unacceptable power grabs by the Bush administration,” said Joan Claybrook, president of Public Citizen. “President Bush is asserting the right to change the law by executive fiat.”

The group identified three major problems with the new executive order:

First, it requires agencies to get White House approval of many important kinds of guidance for the public, which would allow the White House to create a bureaucratic bottleneck that would slow down agencies’ ability to give the public information it needs.

Agencies use guidance to let the public know how they intend to enforce the laws and regulations on the books.

“By requiring White House approval of important guidance, the White House will insert its political agenda and pro-business bias into every level of agency policy, so that our federal government will handcuff itself instead of the companies that violate the law and put the public in danger,” Robert Shull, Public Citizen’s deputy director for auto safety and regulatory policy, warned.

Second, the new order stresses the concept of “market failure” in its revised command for agencies to state justifications for new regulations for public health, privacy, safety, civil rights and the environment. Market failure is an economics term describing situations in which private markets, left to themselves, fail to bring about results that the public needs.

This order will be enforced by Susan Dudley, a controversial figure the White House is setting up for a recess appointment to become the administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) in the White House Office of Management and Budget.

She calls herself a "free-market environmentalist," who wants to protect the environment through "market-based incentives."
Based on an evaluation of Dudley’s record in a report released last year, Public Citizen has concluded that in her hands, the market failure provision will become a barrier to the protections that the public needs.

Third, the order requires agencies to develop annual plans for upcoming rulemakings that identify “the combined aggregate costs and benefits of all … regulations planned for that calendar year to assist with the identification of priorities.”

This new requirement will make cost/benefit analysis the central factor in setting priorities for needed protections of the public interest.

“These cost/benefit analyses are notoriously biased against regulation, especially long-term goals such as preventing global warming or cancers that manifest years after exposure to toxic substances,” said Claybrook. “The upshot of this whole executive order is that the White House is already working to undermine not just agencies but also the new Congress’ ability to protect the public.”

“The White House is amending the Administrative Procedure Act by decree, claiming power that belongs to Congress alone. It is an appalling arrogation of power and a slap in the face to the new Congress,” said Shull. “Congress must immediately arrange hearings to hold the president accountable for this affront to the rule of law.”


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dotslash
my god, next thing we'll be hearing is Bush isn't stepping down and had Hilary killed
Outcast
When will be the next U.S. Presidential Election? Starting or near the end of 2008?
AlphaAddict
As long as theyre pro neucler and anti-greenpeace . i dont see what you have agenst your Federal Government the modified extradition/rendition program is genious preventing racisim and repraisal attacks .

Iraq however is another story , we thought we were killing two birds with one stone ...
Gsurface
I think everyone should see this documentary and learn when we stopped becoming "good citizens" and have been converted to "good consumers".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...ury+of+the+self
Outcast
Is America turning towards dictatorship?
thexfile
This almost sounds like something a lawyer came up with... a preemptive legal move.
BlueScreenOfDeath
QUOTE(dotslash @ Jan 27 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]106705[/snapback]
my god, next thing we'll be hearing is Bush isn't stepping down and had Hilary killed


And that would be a bad thing? tongue.gif
cokeman
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QUOTE(dotslash @ Jan 27 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]106705[/snapback]
my god, next thing we'll be hearing is Bush isn't stepping down and had Hilary killed


And that would be a bad thing? tongue.gif


Agreed, people think Iraq is a mess because of the United States, it was a mess before we invaded, and now were building schools, business and infrastructure. And if we get some cheap oil, why not.
Gsurface
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QUOTE(BlueScreenOfDeath @ Jan 28 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]106739[/snapback]
QUOTE(dotslash @ Jan 27 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]106705[/snapback]
my god, next thing we'll be hearing is Bush isn't stepping down and had Hilary killed


And that would be a bad thing? tongue.gif


Agreed, people think Iraq is a mess because of the United States, it was a mess before we invaded, and now were building schools, business and infrastructure. And if we get some cheap oil, why not.

Your not serious right? To think that the Iraqi people are better off now then they were by a US supported Dictotor is crazy. Sure he was a killer but this chaos that is going on there with insurgency and the Iraqui death toll climbing over 100,000, I wouldn't say they are better off. It is really easy for us to be here, in this great nation and say that they are better off. Just my 2 cents.
cokeman
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QUOTE(dotslash @ Jan 27 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]106705[/snapback]
my god, next thing we'll be hearing is Bush isn't stepping down and had Hilary killed


And that would be a bad thing? tongue.gif


Agreed, people think Iraq is a mess because of the United States, it was a mess before we invaded, and now were building schools, business and infrastructure. And if we get some cheap oil, why not.

Your not serious right? To think that the Iraqi people are better off now then they were by a US supported Dictotor is crazy. Sure he was a killer but this chaos that is going on there with insurgency and the Iraqui death toll climbing over 100,000, I wouldn't say they are better off. It is really easy for us to be here, in this great nation and say that they are better off. Just my 2 cents.


People are always gonna die, thats life $hits gonna happen. Its also apart of war, things get worse before they get better. And to think that Iraq was better under Saddam is crazy. A lot of people disagree with Bush, but would you want to replace him with Saddam Hussein, who killed thousands for disagreeing with him. Saddam's rule was pathetic, he destroyed his country and his people, and for that paid the ultimate price. As for his country, he used his people to accomplish a impossible goal, destroy the western world. Iraq is slowly rebuilding, and in 10, 20 years will we think the war is useless? Germany didn't look good after World War II and now there a major economic power. Iraq will howerver take longer. It is part of the oldest civilization. The land between the 2 rivers has always been volatile. Hopefully the new Iraq will rise past its history and create a brighter future for Iraqis.

thexfile
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he used his people to accomplish a impossible goal, destroy the western world.

He was making a ton of money off of the western world. Saddam wasn't a religious nut he was a egocentric.

Bush wanted this war and now we have a hate machine custom built for the US military-industrial complex.

...of course everybody has their take. wink.gif
mm_omega2
war? there's a war going on?
anyway... deaths are going to happen or either over population. I just went over to the desert 5 times in the past 4 yrs for a free vacation paid for by uncle sam. Someone report this to me..... how many people in the entire world die from occupational hazards? answer that how many people die from walking out of the gas station on their way home to their families?
actually cigarettes and/or tobacco contribute to more than 400,000 deaths every year... so what... war on terrorism lets say started in 2001-2007 so 6 yrs of war, when you see war movies you see people die, war = death....
my point 6yrs of war americans + iraqi + other nations = 100,000 deaths
6yrs of smoking tobacco use in America alone = 2.4 million+ deaths
you are less likely to die in war than from using tobacco, now I am not pro Bush, pro tobacco, or whatever...... but 100,000 vs. 2.4million yet Marlboro is still selling 10 different brands of cigarettes in almost every gas station across America and all we have are these cutesy little anti-smoking commericals.
Iraq, a country approximately the size of California, but with only 2/3rd its population, suffered more than a million violent deaths under Saddam Hussein's regime.
dotslash
QUOTE(cokeman @ Jan 30 2007, 01:00 AM) [snapback]106774[/snapback]
and now were building schools, business and infrastructure. And if we get some cheap oil, why not.

Do you realise that not a single contract to build anything in Iraq was competed for? The US went into Iraq, not for oil, but so Bush could give his mates some highly lucrative contracts (oh and to carry on his little religious crusade)

Not to mention that both Iraq and Afghanistan border Iran, and that having control of both would give the US a massive ground advantage if it wanted to invade Iran.

Granted, Saddam wasn't the nicest of leaders in the world and i'm glad that we did something about it, but if we could of done it with a a lot more sense then we'd all be a lot happier.
Outcast
Ironic isn't it, America made Saddam a president and you guys pull him down as one...
thexfile
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Ironic isn't it, America made Saddam a president and you guys pull him down as one...

No surprise. If you look at the history of US supported dictators they always come back and bite US in the a$$ later.
dn2004
I wouldnt call iraq a war.. its more like a foreign invasion or at least a liberation.. WW1 and WW2 were wars... not sure about Iraq
Outcast
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QUOTE(Outcast @ Jan 30 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]106785[/snapback]
Ironic isn't it, America made Saddam a president and you guys pull him down as one...

No surprise. If you look at the history of US supported dictators they always come back and bite US in the a$ later.

Hmm, then why support dictators in the first place?
dotslash
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QUOTE(thexfile @ Jan 30 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]106786[/snapback]
QUOTE(Outcast @ Jan 30 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]106785[/snapback]
Ironic isn't it, America made Saddam a president and you guys pull him down as one...

No surprise. If you look at the history of US supported dictators they always come back and bite US in the a$ later.

Hmm, then why support dictators in the first place?

They bring in trade and thus money to us westerners, and it's cheaper than going to war.
kubato
QUOTE(Outcast @ Jan 30 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]106785[/snapback]
Ironic isn't it, America made Saddam a president and you guys pull him down as one...

Do not forget that America made Castro president of Cuba too. This all points out that America needs to keep its nose out of everyone’s business. There are many paths to the same result and many religions’ too. We all need to work together and stop trying to force every country to be "American". Hell, We have the worst educational system, most out of shape people, our health care system for our own people rivals Africa, which has the worst health care system in the world. But, we spend 8 times more than the second largest country (China) on our military. We need to fix the internal problems first, fire the lawyers. Force Congress and Senate to only serve 2 terms then must leave office. Make all elected officials submit to drug and lie detector testing. Allow users to vote for removal of the elected officials’ and president too. If someone who you elected is not doing what you want you can get them out of office.
cokeman
The US and Cuba were once allies and trading partners. It was the USSR's push for socialism that caused Cuba, and Castro to go against the United States.
Gsurface
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The US and Cuba were once allies and trading partners. It was the USSR's push for socialism that caused Cuba, and Castro to go against the United States.

With all do respect, I really think you need to study your history again. That is entirely NOT true. Castro was anti-US before he took power, his dislike of US was based on the FACT that the US supported the Cuban dictortor, Batista, which oppressed the Cuban people. 3% of Cubans owned Cuban land during Batistas time, Castro wanted to rebel against the oppression. It was Che who proposed the Castro government become socialist because he believed that was the only way to end the poverty in Cuba. Whether Socialism is right or worng, I dont know, all my life I have lived under a capatalist system so it wouldn't be fare to judge. The US's enbargo on Cuba did have to do with the fact that Cuba had USSR missles on the island, but what really caused the embargo was the nationilization of the private sector, which was owned my US corporations and the mob. I think everyone who is interested in joining this thread view this documentary: Why We Fight.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...;q=why+we+fight
This explains precisely the reason why we (US) fights.
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